Saturday, 19 December 2015

its paramount or bust

Further to Riveroak getting the cold shoulder from TDC for the 2nd time they have pushed the boat out even further this time.

They are applying to the Government for a Development Consent Order (DSO) which is awarded for projects that meet the requirement of national significance.

"Manston was closed in May last year after wracking up losses of more than £100 million during 16 years of private ownership."
 
"A Development Consent Order (DCO) is the means of obtaining permission for developments categorised as Nationally Significant Infrastructure Projects (NSIP). This includes energy, transport, water and waste projects. Development Consent Orders are required for designated Nationally Significant Infrastructure Projects rather than other consents such as planning permission, listed building consent and compulsory purchase orders. "

This is from a Government that has rejected Manston twice under the Davies Committee.

Now the Pro supporters are happy again, so happy in fact they have started to threaten once again this time on Kentonline link here


  Its a strange world we live in where it is a badge of pride to be banned from commentating on a local newspaper but par for the course for Pro Manston supporters. Oh and Keith "Blue Sky thinking" isn't Paul Abela so you can't commit actual bodily harm as you have no idea who it is. And further Churchy boy you are free to comment on here if you have it in you. Unlike "Manston Load Hailer" where you say one thing and do something different in reality.

BTW Manston supporters can you read and have you read this (link here). This is what it says before you apply.

Pre-application

The process begins when the Planning Inspectorate is informed by a developer that they intend to submit an application to us in the future. Before submitting an application, the developer is required to carry out extensive consultation on their proposals. The length of time taken to prepare and consult on the project will vary depending upon its scale and complexity. Responding to the developer’s pre-application consultation is the best time to influence a project, whether you agree with it, disagree with it or believe it could be improved.

39 comments:

  1. Wells is ducking and diving around progressing anything at Manston - is it because of the aquifer pollution? Simply dithering isn't going to clean it up. Manston has been closed almost 2years and ukip in power for 6 months at tdc and 3 years at kcc and done nothing

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  2. The lawyers RO have appointed have won every case they've taken on and wouldn't take on a case that might damage this record. I'm sure they are very confident of success, I just wonder why this route wasn't used from day one rather than trying to get a small council to undertake a project of this scale.

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    1. Anon when did this happen "Before submitting an application, the developer is required to carry out extensive consultation on their proposals"

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    2. RiverOaks new Lawyers hav'nt win every case,but that have agreed to disagree so what does that tell you.

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  3. Seems like the country and airline industry have managed quite well without Mansion for nearly 2 years or even the last decade so it will be difficult to prove that it is needed in the national interest. Not even needed for air sea rescue service any more with the modern helicopters being used at Lydd.

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  4. So to qualify as a DCO airport IT will need to have 10000 cargo flights a year, that's 27 a day 365 days a year and at one an hour will be 24 hour operation just like the one RO helped to finance in the US. This is going to be a very big profitable airport employing lots of highly skilled people.

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    1. Interesting conclusion however "The public interest test" is impartial to profitability but determines its impact on people and the environment

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    2. Still not seeing the freight operator backing up Riveroak in the press or media, if it was that appealing and cost effective they would be backing it to the hilt... !!

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  5. Indeed but employing lots of highly skilled people and being profitable is a big step towards fulfilling the criteria. As for the environment there was already an airport on the site.

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    1. ? well that's got me highly skilled a fork lift driver?

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    2. The chuckle brother21 December 2015 at 21:40

      profitable certainly Freudmann walked away with a profit shame all the investors lost their money

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    3. Freudmann had people over before this time his doing it with Gale and Rivroak ECT etc,this is the big one, enough for everyone to chop up!So thay think.One problem ME!

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  6. One loud heavy cargo jet flying over Ramsgate every hour? Well, I can't see why anybody would object to that. Especially when the alternative- the legal owners' plan- is 2500 noisy houses,some industrial buildings which won't be providing any real (i.e., aviation-related) jobs, and some hideous, polluting trees, grass and cycle paths.

    I want to post under my own name, Barry, but I still can't do it.

    Marva Rees

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    1. Suma have shut up for xmas but thimk manston would reopen in 2017. ManstonNewTown is no credible option just housing infill for a dollar.

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    2. Cycle paths? Yeah right cram the Barratts boxhomes in and pour tarmac

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    3. Thought there was plenty of concrete and up to 9 metres thick I heard. Its called a runway however Santa Pod would be less polluting than a 747 or 10,000

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    4. 9m thick are u sure or confusing it with Gale?

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    5. No confusion. In some parts its 9M thick something to do with cold war improvements

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    6. Sounds confusion over 9m or 9feet. 9m of concrete would be the depth of a house...

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    7. Maybe you should have gone to one of the consultations Anon

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    8. Maybe you have been misled Baz: a quick Google shows runways depth from one foot upto 1m...Perhaps Gloag wants to befuddle attempts to dig it up?

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    9. Google the answer to all questions? Personally I prefer my own research but you carry on :)

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  7. What is happening with the 2 vince munday elections? Manston policy?

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    1. One has been posted to Ramsgate Town Council website today

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    2. An interesting crop of candidates and some unknown. Do they have any policies or mere wheel-turners? Most if the rtc councillors don't attend meetings and there are no minutes for the last 2months?

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    3. The councillors are too weak to review and sack the civil servants so are simply lead by the nose. What have ukip or bayfords lot done since May?

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  8. Thank you Barry for all the blogs and very interesting information this last 18+ moons.Have a great Christmas and a great new year with your loved ones.
    Fare Well Humpty Dumpty.

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  9. Why does anyone think building 3,000 houses creates jobs? It does for a few months in the construction industry - and then reduces the value of all the existing houses? ANd what would be the jobs for all the people in the new houses? Idiotic town planning again as with WC

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    1. 2500 not 3000 get your facts right. Have you added your comments to Stone Hill Park consultation or are you just whining?

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  10. pro manston are trying a petition on facebook on pat condell page. hope it isn't to pretend it was part of consultation

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  11. Beau Webber has stated in a comment on a gazette article by the greens that it's 10000 houses not 2500

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    1. yeah and he is an expert on ? Fracking I believe

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    2. That would be 10,000+ if anything to do with Freudmanns/Riveroaks plans,with all the help in the world from Gale,No if or buts!

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    3. Beau Webber is a Fracking expert!Hahahahaha So Gale OKs fracking under national parks,Gale OKs an airport,Gale says/does narda for the Deaf school.

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  12. DCO is go. On 5 January the RiverOak team and its legal advisors met five members of the Planning Inspectorate team at Temple Quay House in Bristol.
    The meeting, which lasted over two hours, covered a range of issues relevant to RiverOak’s proposed application for a Development Consent Order in respect of Manston Airport. It was agreed that from now on there should be regular monthly meetings between the parties as the DCO process moves forward, the first of which will take place in February.

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    1. Thunderbirds are go :) oh dear more spin from SMA. They are 30 days to put their case at that point and only at that point will the Tories decide whether its a go. Remember only a site of National importance can be subject of a DCO.

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