The last 4 weeks have been tumultuous with Bretts asking Kent County Council for a Certificate of Lawfulness to create an aggregate washing plant on the port apron. This led to the creation of an action group to protest about the noise and pollution. This comes hard on the heels of O'Regan proposing a concrete block making plant which was withdrawn after, again, much protest. So why are we getting polluting industry for the port. To find out why we have to look back to the loss of the car ferry, Transeuropa, in 2012 owing £3.4M in berthing fees.
The Labour Cabinet commissioned a report to see if employment could be revived on the Port and here is a copy of the brief.
You will note there is no mention of any aggregate washing nor concrete block making however when the plan was expanded and promoted in 2014, at the Yacht club there was a great deal of promotion of industry at the port. What would be useful is to know how much influence the two planning officer White and Brown had in this plan's development.
To go with the pedestrianisation of Harbour Street we had some artist's drawings which at the time caused a great deal of angst, however with the regeneration of the Royal Pavilion maybe this idea needs some thought again
Oh and what happened to the Brett's proposal. Well it seems that after Natural England intervened Brett's decided they didn't want to suffer an Environmental Assessment and they withdrew.
Ramsgate on the Isle of Thanet is a seaside resort in the south East of England. Once a major holiday destination it has become run down because of a failure to move with the times. Once a place for a wonderful holiday experience now blighted by 11 years of dereliction on the seafront and a failure of governance from Thanet District Council. This blog has been set up to give Ramsgate people a voice and to campaign for change #Truthwillout
Thursday, 10 November 2016
Thursday, 27 October 2016
Remembrance
It is 100 years since many of our armed forces became cannon fodder for the vanity of politicians who after it was all over (The war to end all wars) then sowed the seeds of a far worse conflict between 1939 and 1946.
After the war was over in 1918 many monuments were erected to remember the sacrifice and in Ramsgate the ceremony on the 11/11/2016 will visit two of them.
The 1st is Destiny "The memorial had been presented by to Ramsgate by Dame Janet Stancomb-Wills at a ceremony on 17th December 1920. The ceremony was attended by the Mayor Mr R W Philpott, the Rev. E L A Hertslet, Gilbert Bayes, the statue's sculptor, several councillors and other leading townspeople. The memorial was unveiled by the Mayoress. Originally inscribed on the plinth was the epigraph Destiny and a low-relief frieze representing all branches of the services – land, sea and air – who contributed to the war effort, as the memorial was dedicated to all who had contributed, not solely to those who had lost their lives. The depictions also acknowledged the contribution of animals to the war effort. These representations can no longer be made out because of the weathering of the stone."
Wreath laying will be in Ramsgate Cemetery
The last is St George's Church where wreaths have been laid in the past.
For the Fallen
With proud thanksgiving,
a mother for her children,
England mourns for her dead across the sea.
Flesh of her flesh they were, spirit of her spirit,
Fallen in the cause of the free.
England mourns for her dead across the sea.
Flesh of her flesh they were, spirit of her spirit,
Fallen in the cause of the free.
Solemn the drums thrill: Death august and royal
Sings sorrow up into immortal spheres.
There is music in the midst of desolation
And a glory that shines upon our tears.
Sings sorrow up into immortal spheres.
There is music in the midst of desolation
And a glory that shines upon our tears.
They went with songs to the battle, they were young,
Straight of limb, true of eye, steady and aglow.
They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted,
They fell with their faces to the foe.
Straight of limb, true of eye, steady and aglow.
They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted,
They fell with their faces to the foe.
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.
They mingle not with their laughing comrades again;
They sit no more at familiar tables of home;
They have no lot in our labour of the day-time;
They sleep beyond England's foam.
They sit no more at familiar tables of home;
They have no lot in our labour of the day-time;
They sleep beyond England's foam.
But where our desires are and our hopes profound,
Felt as a well-spring that is hidden from sight,
To the innermost heart of their own land they are known
As the stars are known to the Night;
Felt as a well-spring that is hidden from sight,
To the innermost heart of their own land they are known
As the stars are known to the Night;
As the stars that shall be bright when we are dust,
Moving in marches upon the heavenly plain,
As the stars that are starry in the time of our darkness,
To the end, to the end, they remain.
Moving in marches upon the heavenly plain,
As the stars that are starry in the time of our darkness,
To the end, to the end, they remain.
Thursday, 18 August 2016
A modern coup
With support for Manston waning and Beau Webber and Robert John Pritchard in charge of the committee it had become apparent that the membership had lost confidence in the "Powers That Be" at the top of the Save Manston Association (SMA). This was more than apparent at Minnis Bay recently when the "Glorious Leader" set up a stall.
Some of the decisions taken by the committee have seemed very strange, with the recent support for Riveroak's Pre-Consultation taken to a new level of stupidity. Even the Planning Institute saying "don't do it" They went ahead and leading lights in the SMA being "Meeters and Greeters" and they even supplied the Security for the event. Well the results were predictable please read a sample.
David Davidge, a security guard in his day job seems to think this is extremely funny forgetting that this has reflected badly on the SMA Committee's decision to get involved in the first place.
To digress slightly SMA was set up to try and get Manston reopened, however it wasn't set up to reopen Manston at any cost and that's what seems to have happened, and whether the recent actions will change this only time will tell.
Well what has happened with the Facebook page?
By Beau Webber | 2016-08-18 The Chairman, Officers and all but one of the Committee of the Save Manston Airport association have had their Facebook admin powers removed and most have been removed from the Save Manston Airport site.
We have confirmed that all the independent moderators (who act to keep the SMA page “clean”) have had their moderating powers removed.
The “founder” of SMA (2014) Dan Light, and the then Chairman Keith Churcher voluntarily relinquished the group (then ~3,000 members) to the management of an SMA Committee in 2014, led by Chairman Dr. Beau Webber. The legitimacy of the Committee was further established by an SGM in 2014 and an AGM in early 2016.
We have evidence that Dan Light has recently assumed dictatorial powers on the SMA site (now ~10,200 members), adding and deleting posts and members without discussion, and has now removed the Admin and other powers of the Chairman, Officers and all but one Member of the Committee of Management on the Facebook site, and has blocked the Chairman and others from access to the site. The actions taken by the Founder do not affect the powers of the Chairman, Officers or other Committee members within the governance of the Save Manston Airport ASSOCIATION.
So it looks like Keith Churcher and Dan Light have taken over the Facebook page however it seems the Real World Committee have decided that they will have to start again on FB. Now it makes you wonder which group will win out and whether either have any friends outside of their narrow world.
One of the main issues with the SMA campaign was the personal abuse directed at anyone who didn't share their viewpoint. Whether Keith and Dan can control the alleged 10000 members is also another moot point. They have so alienated TDC that it is doubtful TDC will ever support them especially if they continue to support a Freight Hub as envisaged by Tony Freudmann and Niall Lawlor. It is clear from the Pre-Consultations that Neither gentlemen want anything to do with TDC the local authority that controls the area of Manston.
Taken from replies given at the pre-consultation
Some of the decisions taken by the committee have seemed very strange, with the recent support for Riveroak's Pre-Consultation taken to a new level of stupidity. Even the Planning Institute saying "don't do it" They went ahead and leading lights in the SMA being "Meeters and Greeters" and they even supplied the Security for the event. Well the results were predictable please read a sample.
David Davidge, a security guard in his day job seems to think this is extremely funny forgetting that this has reflected badly on the SMA Committee's decision to get involved in the first place.
To digress slightly SMA was set up to try and get Manston reopened, however it wasn't set up to reopen Manston at any cost and that's what seems to have happened, and whether the recent actions will change this only time will tell.
Well what has happened with the Facebook page?
By Beau Webber | 2016-08-18 The Chairman, Officers and all but one of the Committee of the Save Manston Airport association have had their Facebook admin powers removed and most have been removed from the Save Manston Airport site.
We have confirmed that all the independent moderators (who act to keep the SMA page “clean”) have had their moderating powers removed.
The “founder” of SMA (2014) Dan Light, and the then Chairman Keith Churcher voluntarily relinquished the group (then ~3,000 members) to the management of an SMA Committee in 2014, led by Chairman Dr. Beau Webber. The legitimacy of the Committee was further established by an SGM in 2014 and an AGM in early 2016.
We have evidence that Dan Light has recently assumed dictatorial powers on the SMA site (now ~10,200 members), adding and deleting posts and members without discussion, and has now removed the Admin and other powers of the Chairman, Officers and all but one Member of the Committee of Management on the Facebook site, and has blocked the Chairman and others from access to the site. The actions taken by the Founder do not affect the powers of the Chairman, Officers or other Committee members within the governance of the Save Manston Airport ASSOCIATION.
So it looks like Keith Churcher and Dan Light have taken over the Facebook page however it seems the Real World Committee have decided that they will have to start again on FB. Now it makes you wonder which group will win out and whether either have any friends outside of their narrow world.
One of the main issues with the SMA campaign was the personal abuse directed at anyone who didn't share their viewpoint. Whether Keith and Dan can control the alleged 10000 members is also another moot point. They have so alienated TDC that it is doubtful TDC will ever support them especially if they continue to support a Freight Hub as envisaged by Tony Freudmann and Niall Lawlor. It is clear from the Pre-Consultations that Neither gentlemen want anything to do with TDC the local authority that controls the area of Manston.
Taken from replies given at the pre-consultation
·
“Niall Lawlor said that the Leader of TDC is in
bed with the two guys who own the site who want to build 2500-3000 houses. He
said: “Why do you think we went to the Planning inspectorate? I took it away
from Thanet Council.”
·
“A gentleman asked how many planes they needed a
day to break even. Mr Freudmann said maybe three or four. The man asked how
many jobs it takes to service three or four planes a day. Tony Freudmann said:
“probably about 50”. The man said: “So that's what we're talking about. The
virtual destruction of Ramsgate for 50 jobs.”
·
“I asked about night flights. RiverOak say they
want to emulate East Midlands Airport and they have dozens of night flights
every night. He said that he wasn’t saying that RiverOak needed night flights
but that the Planning Inspectorate had asked RiverOak what they were going to
say in their consultation about night flights. He said that they had to include
night flights because the Planning Inspectorate said that they were mandating
Heathrow, Gatwick, Stanstead, Luton and every other major airport in the South
East to come up with a policy for potential night flight traffic. The
Inspectorate had said: “We cannot have you involved in the DCO when we are
seeking to potentially do a DCO on Heathrow and we have not asked you to do a
review on night flights.” What on earth does this mean?”
“Mr Lawlor said that Thanet Council was
“duplicitous” and that they had been supposed to be backing RiverOak. He said
that he had told them that to their faces and that he was gladly saying it here
as well.
“Mr Lawlor agreed that his aim was for a cargo
airport the size of East Midlands. He then said that that's not a lucrative
proposition. The lucrative proposition is a mechanised assembly line doing
aircraft recycling. So it looks as if the cargo idea is just an excuse to get
hold of the site. I reminded him that the application to the Planning Inspectorate
is on the basis of a cargo hub airport and that a recycling unit for planes is
not a national asset.”
“I asked Tony Freudmann about night flights. He
said that they might need them but had no plans as yet. I asked him whether or
not a lot of cargo operators say they need night flights. He agreed that they
did. He also agreed that cargo operators pretty much determine the flying
schedule that they want from an airport. I’m conscious that this is the man who
managed to negotiate TDC into accepting unlimited, unscheduled night flights of
planes as big as a 747-400. He knows he’ll need night flights if RiverOak get
hold of this airport.”
So will anything change? Well the past doesn't bode well for the future. Certainly Beau and Pritchard have done their campaign no favours and Pritchard's support for the disgrace Collins and Smith have alienated many in the campaign. (seems supporting a liar and cheat is fine)
Also treating people who have a different opinion as badly as they have done doesn't bode well for how they take it forward. The whole campaign which included death threats, raking through the past, personal abuse etc. These will all need burying because if it's same as before then neither party will be able to continue.
Maybe it's about time for apologies to be made and the removal of the nasty element from their pages. Maybe its past time to make the group open instead of a closed hidden group. Think of Groupthink.
If anything changes then I'll ramble on further
Statement from Dan Light
Dear members
Those who have been here for a long time will know that I was the original founder of the Save Manston Airport Facebook group way back at the start of 2014. To new members, welcome.
Today there have been several changes made to the Save Manston Airport Facebook group. This morning I removed all admin, moderators and committee when it became apparent that an alternative secret Facebook group had been set up without my knowledge. I took this decision for the good of the group as I did not like the direction my group was taking. Many of you have mentally switched off, and have felt you cannot discuss certain things for fear of getting shouted down; the campaign was starting to lose a lot of puff, there were no guts left in it left in it, and people were becoming disillusioned.
I have listened to many of you who have messaged me and spoken to me, and took this decision, to steer this whole thing back on track; at the moment we need people on our side. Unfortunately we alienated a lot of important people who could actually work with us and help us. I was not of the same opinion as others on the committee, and after countless talks falling on deaf ears this was another reason to make drastic changes. I was on my own, alienated, I wasn't listened to and when I tried to put forward my concerns I was talked down to like a child. My opinion as founder didn't matter it seems, and I also found, whilst at work, things were going on behind my back on which I had no say, which really hurt the campaign badly. I could not trust the people who were supposed to be working with me, not against me.
I understand this may come as a shock to some of you, and if you want to leave due to the changes that is your choice and I accept that. If you want to carry on being a member of John Pritchard and Beau Webber's formal Association please do so here https://www.facebook.com/groups/savemanstonairportassociation/
They are governed by a formal constitution. I feel that on a Facebook group there is no need for that and that is one of the reasons why the group lost its appeal. They are welcome to carry on with their formal campaign and I formally relinquish anything to do with it.
In the meantime this campaign will once again grow legs and get back to basics like it was at the very start. We will allow differing opinions in the group about RiverOak and also about other investors; no one will be shouted down for their views. The people now administering the group (not a committee) want to make a change for the better and carry this on in the way it was intended right from the start. There will be rules but more about that later.
I hope you do decide stay and carry on the fight with us; if you feel you can't you are more than welcome to leave and I will respect that. Let’s move forwards in saving Manston Airport.
NEVER SURRENDER!!
Statement from Dan Light
Dear members
Those who have been here for a long time will know that I was the original founder of the Save Manston Airport Facebook group way back at the start of 2014. To new members, welcome.
Today there have been several changes made to the Save Manston Airport Facebook group. This morning I removed all admin, moderators and committee when it became apparent that an alternative secret Facebook group had been set up without my knowledge. I took this decision for the good of the group as I did not like the direction my group was taking. Many of you have mentally switched off, and have felt you cannot discuss certain things for fear of getting shouted down; the campaign was starting to lose a lot of puff, there were no guts left in it left in it, and people were becoming disillusioned.
I have listened to many of you who have messaged me and spoken to me, and took this decision, to steer this whole thing back on track; at the moment we need people on our side. Unfortunately we alienated a lot of important people who could actually work with us and help us. I was not of the same opinion as others on the committee, and after countless talks falling on deaf ears this was another reason to make drastic changes. I was on my own, alienated, I wasn't listened to and when I tried to put forward my concerns I was talked down to like a child. My opinion as founder didn't matter it seems, and I also found, whilst at work, things were going on behind my back on which I had no say, which really hurt the campaign badly. I could not trust the people who were supposed to be working with me, not against me.
I understand this may come as a shock to some of you, and if you want to leave due to the changes that is your choice and I accept that. If you want to carry on being a member of John Pritchard and Beau Webber's formal Association please do so here https://www.facebook.com/groups/savemanstonairportassociation/
They are governed by a formal constitution. I feel that on a Facebook group there is no need for that and that is one of the reasons why the group lost its appeal. They are welcome to carry on with their formal campaign and I formally relinquish anything to do with it.
In the meantime this campaign will once again grow legs and get back to basics like it was at the very start. We will allow differing opinions in the group about RiverOak and also about other investors; no one will be shouted down for their views. The people now administering the group (not a committee) want to make a change for the better and carry this on in the way it was intended right from the start. There will be rules but more about that later.
I hope you do decide stay and carry on the fight with us; if you feel you can't you are more than welcome to leave and I will respect that. Let’s move forwards in saving Manston Airport.
NEVER SURRENDER!!
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